135. Navigating the Hudson with Freedom Boat Club

Ah, there is nothing quite like being out on the water—especially on our beloved Hudson River! 🌊
In this episode of Cidiot®, we are diving headfirst into the boating lifestyle. I’m joined by Josh Rosella of Freedom Boat Club to talk about how they are making waves right here in the region. As the world’s largest boat club, they are opening up the water to everyone with three fantastic Hudson Valley locations spanning both sides of the river—Ossining, Haverstraw, and Piermont—plus a spot at Liberty Landing in Jersey City for our New Jersey listeners.
We talk all about the incredible local boating lifestyle, including my absolute new obsession: "dock and dine" (because what is cooler than pulling up to a restaurant by boat?). Plus, Josh fills me in on what it actually means to go "sandbarring."
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Thank you, Freedom Boat Club, and Brett Barry of Silver Hollow Audio and host of Kaatscast: The Catskills Podcast.
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Being on the water, for me, it's
therapeutic, it's calming, it
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has this openness.
The air smells different.
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I have a whole psychological
thing that happens to me on the
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water.
Are you attracted to the water
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in that way or is that just a me
fetish thing?
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No, absolutely I am.
I think that's really common.
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I mean, there's a lot of science
behind this.
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There was a book that came out a
few years ago called Blue Mind,
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and it was a scientific approach
to that feeling you're
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describing.
And it's true.
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Like, I'm not a doctor or
anything or scientist, but I
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feel the same thing.
And then I get out there.
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It's just the best way to spend
your free time, in my opinion.
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It it really is clears your
mind, right?
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There's nothing else to do.
Your phone is on the boat,
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you're in the water.
You know, And the other thing I
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really like about it is we often
say internally that we're not
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competing against boat sales or
even other boat clubs.
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It's like we're competing
against other options where
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people can spend their free
time, right?
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Including your phone and Disney
and right.
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And so it's like one of the last
frontiers where you get the
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people you love.
You're in an enclosed space away
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from everyone else and like
you're just there to make good
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memories.
I'm Matt Zucker and this is
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Cydia, learning to live and love
life in the Hudson Valley.
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Have you ever looked out on the
Hudson River and wished you were
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out there on the water instead
of just driving alongside it?
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Well, today we are dipping our
toes in the boating lifestyle
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with Josh Rosella from Freedom
Boat Club.
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Freedom Boat Club is the world's
biggest Boat Club, and they're
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making waves right here in the
Hudson Valley with three local
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sites spanning both sides of the
river in Ossining, Haverstraw
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and Piermont.
Plus, if you're in Jersey, like
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many listeners are, you can find
them down at Liberty Landing in
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Jersey City.
In this episode, we talk all
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about the lifestyle.
I have a new obsession with this
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idea.
Dock and dine, because what's
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better than pulling up to a
restaurant by boat?
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And I also learned what it means
to go sand.
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Barring whether you're a season
captain or a future expert
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boater, put on your top sliders
and let's go boating.
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Here's my conversation with
Josh.
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Hi, Josh.
Hey.
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Hello Matt, How are you?
Hey, thanks for coming on City
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and I'm really excited to talk
about boating and boating clubs
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and what you guys are all about
too, because I have a whole
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fascination with the water.
I mean, I just love the Hudson
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and I love water and I just want
to know everything about every.
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Well, that's excellent.
Yeah.
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Well, hopefully I can help get
you informed and and likewise
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thank you for having me. 1st
about the water too, like how
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did you get into like did you
like Aquaman or did you like
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Gilligan's Island?
Like how did you get into the
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water business?
Gilligan's Island, yes.
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So I, I grew up in western PA,
like central western
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Pennsylvania in the mountains
and didn't have a lot of access
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to water.
So I was more of a ATV, you
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know, once men, I guess.
And so maybe the inverse of the
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city.
And if I understand that the
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meaning there, I grew up in the
in the sticks.
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But So what happened is my my
aunt and uncle are my partners
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and and I was working for a
railroad there at about 10 years
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in and I started asking them
about like some business ideas.
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I started asking them about that
and you know what they thought?
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They're very experienced in
business and they had a family
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friend who owned the Freedom
Boat Club franchises in New
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York, on Long Island and in
Connecticut.
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And so they were already kind of
exploring this.
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And they said to me, you know
what about this?
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And so I went out and spent some
time in Long Island at the clubs
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and a little bit of time on my
and uncle's boat.
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And we eventually, you know,
what sealed it for me, if I
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could just say this, We were
with them in Delaware, where
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they live, And we were on their
boat, my aunt and uncle.
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And we pulled up to a restaurant
called Paradise Girl.
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It's like one of my favorite
places in the world.
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And a guy that I went to high
school with lives out there at
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the time.
And he was always posting videos
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and photos of himself and his
family and friends at Paradise
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Girl, like multiple live bands
right on the water.
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And so we pull up past it.
It's like a Saturday.
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There's boats all over the
sandbars.
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They have 85 slits of the
restaurant.
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And we pull into the restaurant.
And my wife and I just kind of
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looked at each other and was
like, yeah, this is our life
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now, You know, we're going to do
this.
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And so we just fell in love with
it then.
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And so once we made that
decision, then I spent a little
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bit of time at Long Island
clubs, and I had another kind of
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epiphany.
I was working with the dock cans
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up there.
We were cleaning boats at the
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end of the day, the sun was
setting, and we were eating like
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a chicken sandwich, you know,
for dinner on the docks.
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The sun was setting, yachts in
the background.
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And it just really solidified
for me that this is a life I
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want.
So really like, it's a lifestyle
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more than just like the water
per SE.
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No doubt.
Yeah.
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I think it really is.
I mean, you know, it was an
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investment.
When you go boating, it costs
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money and time and and so I
think you have to really love
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it.
You're either wanting that
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lifestyle or not.
But I do think it it is
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definitely a lifestyle.
I mean, it's the places you can
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go and the things you do are are
very different from any other
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hobby I would say.
Even how you dress, it's almost
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like golf has a distinct look
and boating is like polo shirts
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and it's very blue and very
stripes and do you have special
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shoes and stuff?
100% yeah.
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It's funny you say that.
So when I first started the
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club, I realized I needed some
new clothes for the reasons you
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just subscribed and and I went
back to visit my old Co workers
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at the railroad and I showed up
in Sperrys like boat shoes and
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oh, Mr. Boating looked at you.
But no, you're, you're right.
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I mean, it's, it's shorts.
And you know, our dress code at
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work is very casual.
It's it's fun shorts, a polo
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maybe.
And, you know, some sun shirts
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or fishing shirts, things like
that.
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And and boat shoes for sure.
Yeah.
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And maybe before we get into the
business, we could just talk
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about like being on the water.
And for me, it's therapeutic,
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it's calming.
It has this like openness.
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The air smells different.
Like I have a whole
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psychological thing that happens
to me on the water.
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It's like a fascination about it
too.
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Like do you do you see that in
people that want that or are you
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attracted to the water in that
way?
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Or is that just a May fetish
thing?
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No, absolutely I am.
I think that's really common.
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I mean, there's a lot of science
behind this.
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There was a book that came out a
few years ago called Blue Mind,
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and it was a scientific approach
to that feeling you're
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describing.
I'm not a doctor or anything or
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scientist, but I feel the same
thing.
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And then I get out there, it's
just fun.
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I, I was fortunate enough to
visit a few of my friends in
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Florida over the weekend and we
took a boat out from Freedom
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Boat Club at one of those sites.
And we were just at a sandbar,
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you know, floating around.
And it's just the best way, you
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know, to spend your free time,
in my opinion.
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It, it really is clears your
mind, right?
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There's nothing else to do.
Your phone is on the boat,
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you're in the water.
You know, And the other thing I
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really like about it is we often
say internally that we're not
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competing against, you know,
boat sales or even other boat
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clubs.
It's like we're competing
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against other options where
people can spend their free
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time, right, including your
phone and Disney and right.
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And so it's like one of the last
frontiers where you get the
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people you love.
You're in an enclosed space away
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from everyone else and like
you're just there to make good
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memories.
Usually people put their phones
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away and enjoy a few hours of
little loved ones company.
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So that does a lot for the, you
know, your mental state as well
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when you're on a boat with the
people you love and you know,
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there's nothing else to do but
enjoy their company.
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Yeah, nice.
What about comparing like the
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Hudson River to like, water off
Long Island where you were at
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first, or elsewhere?
Like the Hudson's different,
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right?
It's this estuary.
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It goes two ways, you know, it's
just a different than the sea.
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Like what is it about the Hudson
that people should know you?
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Know it's a great distinction.
So I mean I do most of my
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boating in southern Delaware
where I live now and it's very
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different I mean very different
waterways.
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I'm in the back bays there.
It's shallow right sandbars.
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So the river unique in a couple
of ways.
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One thing, it's a lot deeper,
not, you know, no sandbars or
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anything like that, but like you
said, you go One Direction or
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the other.
But I think one thing that's
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unique about the Hudson versus
anywhere else.
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I'm up here today actually, and
it's just a striking place to
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be, right?
Like every time I come up here,
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I'm like, man, this place is
amazing.
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I mean, you have the city
skyline view, which is just
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incredible.
I'm I'm a Jersey City now, but
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in the Hudson in the fall.
I mean, it's like no other
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place, right?
So you take a boat out in that
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environment where you have the
the the rock face and you know,
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you're in that valley.
I mean, it's just an incredible
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place to be.
Whereas our other locations are
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flat, you know, and sand and
they're beautiful as well.
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But Hudson Valley is unique in
that regard.
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Yeah, yeah, that makes sense.
All the peepers that drive up.
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On the roads, in the.
Fall maybe should take a boat
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instead.
Well, they're both great
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viewpoints, but yeah, being on a
boat is a little more unique
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maybe.
Let's talk about the club
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because because freedom is a
it's a Boat Club and I'm not as
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familiar with them.
I mean, I've been out on like a
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random sail and a sunset sail.
And if a friend like actually
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invites me on a boat all and we
say yes.
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But like, how do boating clubs
work?
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Is it like a Golf Club?
So it's, you know, you pay an
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entry fee, it's private club,
pay an entry fee one time, you
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pay dues every month and that
gets you access to our boats,
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right, Which is the important
thing that most people want.
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But in addition to just getting
access to our boats, like what
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separates Freedom Boat Club from
the rest of the pack is that we
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are the largest and oldest Boat
Club in the world.
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We have about almost 450
locations.
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Like we're a few shy of that all
across the world, right?
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So as a member of our club, not
only do you get unlimited voting
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access at the location which you
sign up, you get it everywhere,
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right?
So you get reciprocal access to
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every other club that's not in
your home franchise group,
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meaning that if you join my club
today, which you should by the
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way, I'll send you the paperwork
after the call, but if you were
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to sign up for our club today,
you get unlimited access to all
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the sites that I own.
You would also get reciprocal
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access to everywhere else,
right?
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So if you wanted to go to Spain
or Australia or Florida or
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Seattle, right, Lake of the
Ozarks, right?
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There's just about 450 locations
so you can visit as a member of
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the club in addition to just the
boating, which is, you know, the
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big thing in the club.
We offer a lot of clubs inside
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the club or a few I should say.
We have a Sea Sisters club which
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is for women.
So women get together.
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They, they often times take our
boats up.
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They do other things too.
They'll go to a happy hour or a
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show or whatever, but it's just
a little group inside the group
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where these women can create,
you know, lifelong friendships.
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We have a anglers club, we call
it.
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So for people who fish, we'll
put captains out on boats with
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the little fishing seminars.
So to get that fishing community
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together, we do that as well.
And then we just have a number
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of events where we invite all
members.
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They can come to these events.
We'll do things like fireworks
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cruises on the 4th of July.
We participate in a lot of
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parades on the water, things
like that, and so we're trying
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to get our members together so
that you know, they can meet
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other like minded people and
continue to have fun as a group
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if they wish.
And you mentioned like boats in
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plural, like canoes, sailboats,
motor boat.
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What kind of boats are there?
Yeah, we use power boats and
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there are maybe a few sailboats
here and there, but for the most
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part, in Freedom Boat Club, it's
power boats from, I'll say, 20
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to 24 feet.
That's generally the size of
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boat.
You would join a Freedom Boat
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Club and enjoy.
We do have an elite to your
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membership that's a bit of a
newer offering that has bigger
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boats, right.
And so that's kind of being
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defined in my own club.
It's anywhere from 26 to 29 for
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the moment.
And so, yeah, all power boats
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with outboard engines.
It varies though, right?
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So if you went to a lake in
Tennessee, you might find wake
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boats, right, for wake surfing.
Or if you went out on the
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Pacific Northwest, you may find
pilot house boats because the,
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you know, the weather and the
boating are a little different
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there.
In my club here in the
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Northeast, we have boats like
center consoles, deck boats, bow
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riders, pontoon boats, and now
we've had a couple of ribs, the
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rigid hall, inflatable boats as
well.
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But so they're mostly open deck
boats for day boating.
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But some of the clubs, like I
said, it varies.
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You may find a cabin boat
somewhere or a wake boat or you
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know things like that.
But in the general 22 foot
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range.
Obviously these are two very
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important questions.
Can I bring beer and wine on?
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Can I bring my dog?
Like what are the rules?
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Yeah, so there are a couple
rules.
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Not you can bring all your
friends.
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You should bring as many friends
as the boat will allow.
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And you can definitely bring
your pets, your boat,
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appropriate pets.
Maybe not a bird or something,
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but yeah, we love to see the
dogs.
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We do like photo contests for
dock dogs and you know, we do
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some fun stuff like that.
As far as the drinking goes,
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everyone on the boat, if they're
of age, can drink.
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The captain should not be
drinking and operating the boat,
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but anybody else can can enjoy.
And in terms of the public, I
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know some people that own boats
or they own part of a boat, like
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with a couple people, like
what's the difference between
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owning a boat and joining a Boat
Club?
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Like why should I do one versus
the other?
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I would say the main difference
is, well, there are probably
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several things, but the most
important one to me would be
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that you don't have to maintain
or repair your boat.
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You don't own the boat.
We own the boats.
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It's not like a timeshare where
everybody owns a portion of it.
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We own the boats, which means,
you know, we buy the boats, we
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maintain them, we service them,
we pull them out of the water in
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the winter.
You know, we insure them, we're
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painting them every season.
We're putting them back in the
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water.
You know, our boats are the
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first boats to go in in the
spring and the last boats to
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come out in the fall or winter.
And so you don't have to worry
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about any of that as a member,
right?
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You just when the season opens,
the boats are in the water,
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they're clean.
Our staff is at the dock.
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Our staff loads your gear for
you.
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The boat is full of gas.
You don't have to fuel it.
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You just make a reservation and
show up and leave.
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And so for me, you know, that's
an important thing because what
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ends up happening, I think is
our club members, they can go
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boating for an hour and it's
worth it to them because there's
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no cleaning, there's no fueling,
there's no prep.
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You just show up and get on the
boat, right?
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So if you're limited on time, if
you had your own boat, those
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sorts of things take a lot
longer, especially if you're
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trailering it somewhere, but you
have to wash it, you have to
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fuel, you have to put it away
with the cover on, you know,
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whatever.
Our members don't have to deal
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with any of that.
So any short amount of time can
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be enjoyed just on the water,
right?
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So that's important to me, you
know, the ability to avoid
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maintaining the boat, repairing
the boat, that's important to
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me.
Other nice amenities in the
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club, we turn up fleet over
every three years, meaning that
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you will never be on an old
boat, right?
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We're turning them over every
couple of years.
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So they're always nice new or
like new boats, right?
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Which is an important
distinction about you owning
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your own boat.
You're going to be stuck with
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that boat until you get a new
boat, and it's the only type of
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boat you have.
And you're going to continue to
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go out of the same slip every
time you go anywhere.
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In our club, you know, we're
turning over boats.
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We're trying out new models.
We're doing interesting things.
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But you have the variety of
boats, right?
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So you could take a center
console out and go fishing one
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day.
The very next day, you could go
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out on a pontoon boat and beach
it on a sandbar and, you know,
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enjoy the sandbar.
Also, the variety of locations I
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think matters a lot, too.
You don't have to continue to go
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out of the same slip of the same
boat ramp.
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If you want to make a
reservation 30 minutes down the
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road and a new location and a
new body of water, you know,
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just do that and you get to
enjoy all your time.
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Yeah.
How does it?
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Work so people don't know
there's availability.
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Like how do you know you run out
of boats?
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Yeah.
So we have a reservation system
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app.
So our members, they just make
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reservations right on the app.
If you were to log into the app,
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it's got a lot of new features
that are great.
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It will tell you within a radius
what's available or around you,
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available for booking.
And so you just get on, see
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what's available, book the time
slot you want and show up at the
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dock at that time.
And as a club, so we monitor
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availability very closely.
It's really important.
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Our members need to be able to
get out, you know, a reasonable
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amount every year.
And so we monitor things like
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the usage of a boat, like how
what percentage of the time is
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the boat being utilized?
And that's how we kind of
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balance our fleet out with the
demand.
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Brian and I really love sunset,
so I would love to go out on
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sunset, but I would also be
terrified of getting stuck out
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there in the dark.
How do I time it so I get out
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there but I get back before the
darkness comes?
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Really important.
Yeah.
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So our members in Freedom Boat
Club, they have to be back by 30
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minutes before sunset.
So when you leave the dock, your
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dock hand would tell you the
latest return time is X today.
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And that just varies.
It goes up and down throughout
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the year, right, as that's
earlier and later.
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And so they would tell you
exactly what time you need to be
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back.
And you would be able to see the
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sun coming down and everything,
but you need to be back 30
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minutes before sunset.
But you would know exactly when
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that is.
And so we have GPS units on the
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boats with trackers, right?
So you can get to wherever
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you're going.
Just monitor that amount amount
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of time and give yourself the
same amount of time to get back.
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And what about like the first
times I go out?
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I feel like I need to be closely
tracked, like I would need like
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a boat behind me making sure I
don't go Askew.
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How easy is it to pick this up?
Is it like getting on a moped or
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is it like getting on a
motorcycle, which is much more
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complicated?
There's like myself, enough
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credit.
Yeah, I know.
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It's a good question though.
Thank you.
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I can drive.
Stick.
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I can drive stick, so that's
something.
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All right, there you go.
You would be fine on a boat.
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So, but our captains though
every new member despite your
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boating background.
So even if you've been boating
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for your entire life, every
member goes through our new
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member orientation.
So our captains will do a
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classroom or virtual, you know,
training with you for a couple
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of hours and that just is about
the rules of the road, you know
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what navigation markers look
like and what they need, things
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like that.
And then you would spend in
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person time with the captain on
the boat and they would teach
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you exactly how to operate the
boat, exactly how to dock the
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boat.
And if you're uncomfortable
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after that first training, you
can come back for unlimited
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trainings until both of you and
the captain are comfortable in
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your skills.
At that point, we would give you
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the certifications necessary to
go make reservations do.
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You have a term for a newcomer,
like a newbie, like a citiot.
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Like is there?
Is there a word for like a new
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boating person?
There probably are somewhere.
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I don't, I don't know.
But I think in our club, you
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know, they're just new members.
So they're new future expert
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boaters.
That's all.
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Future experts, Yeah, that's it.
Yeah.
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Now we just new member, new
member orientation.
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Hope you're enjoying hearing
about boating and Freedom Boat
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Club.
Freedom Boat Club has a bunch of
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locations around the area
including Ossining, Haverstraw,
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and Piermont.
Plus, if you're in Jersey at
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Liberty Landing in Jersey City,
check them out at
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freedomboatclub.com.
The water is waiting.
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Oh, and tell them you heard
about it on City at podcast and
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you'll get $500 off the entry
fee.
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So my neighbor is a part owner
of a boat up here in
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Prairieville.
She loves it and she's really
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curious about like how a boating
club like participates in the
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community.
She notices that like both
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people like that live around
like are very into it and
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there's a certain nice feel for
like self policing and taking
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care of it and that kind of
sculpture.
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Does that manifest itself for
for you guys too?
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Mind does.
I mean, first and foremost, we
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want to be good neighbors
wherever we are.
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You know, so every Marina we go
into, we try to make the place
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better, right?
Our dock staff will look out for
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not only our own boats, but for
other people's boats.
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And likewise reciprocates in
that community.
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That, that is one thing.
It's really strong sense of
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community in, in the boating
environment, like even in the
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marinas, people are always
looking out for one another and
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each other's boats and things
like that.
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But yes, we participate in
several and I'm sure lots of
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boaters do this, not special to
us, but we do like river
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cleanups and we do a lot of
charitable causes like with
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mammal rescue groups and, and
there's bird watching groups and
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there's, you know, we're always
volunteering for things like
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that and for sailing events.
And we just, we want to be a
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good partner to the community.
We're happy to leverage our
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assets, you know, to help people
out, to help them accomplish
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what they're trying to do,
especially when it comes to the
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environment and safety on the
water.
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And when I go out on a boat
before sunset, can you like go
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swimming or go power sailing?
Or is it like boat and boat
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back?
Can I dock somewhere and then
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come back?
How regulated is boating?
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No, I mean, you can do pretty
much anything you can imagine,
441
00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:04,120
you know, we, we would let you
do so You can go boating.
442
00:20:04,120 --> 00:20:05,960
Yeah.
Dock and Dine's very popular.
443
00:20:06,120 --> 00:20:07,520
To dock and dine.
No water.
444
00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:10,200
Skiing, dock and dine.
Yeah, absolutely.
445
00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:12,640
Yeah, yeah.
There's nothing better than
446
00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:15,680
showing up to the restaurant on
a boat as long as you can dock.
447
00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:18,600
If you haven't been properly
trained and you're an ex one of
448
00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:20,840
the future expert boaters,
there's nothing better than
449
00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:24,200
pulling up to a back restaurant
by but so dock and Dime's
450
00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:26,640
incredibly popular.
Sandbars are very popular.
451
00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:29,720
Tubing, water skiing, you know,
just swimming.
452
00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:32,000
Some members will bring those
chill pads, like the big
453
00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:34,920
floating pads, they'll roll them
up and put them on the boat.
454
00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:38,200
And so they'll just anchor the
boat and splash around.
455
00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:40,400
All of that stuff's good.
Fishing, of course, very
456
00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:42,880
popular.
Only a few things you know that
457
00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:45,080
we would prohibit.
I think I'm more of a dock, a
458
00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:47,840
duck and dime versus a fishing,
but I probably know people that
459
00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:50,000
do it.
Yeah, I'm not a big fishing
460
00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:53,480
person, I just, I wish I was.
I will be someday, but not for
461
00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:55,200
now.
Dock and Dimes and sandbars and
462
00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:57,520
then I got 2 little girls and
then we love that.
463
00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:00,520
What is sandbar meaning?
You like go running around?
464
00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:03,080
What does that mean?
Yeah, but maybe intentionally.
465
00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:04,760
You you put the boat near the
ground.
466
00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:07,760
Yeah.
So Sandbar was so in a tidal
467
00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:09,880
environment like in the
Delaware, So down in southern
468
00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:11,480
Delaware, we have the robe at
Bay, for instance.
469
00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:12,760
That's where I do a lot of my
boating.
470
00:21:13,120 --> 00:21:16,720
As tide comes out, side runs
out, some of the little islands
471
00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:18,320
will emerge from the water,
right.
472
00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:22,480
And so the shallow areas can
actually be visible little sand
473
00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:24,360
islands.
And so you would anchor your
474
00:21:24,360 --> 00:21:26,920
boat near there in a couple of
feet of water and you can walk
475
00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:29,480
in and you know, people will
bring lawn chairs and, you know,
476
00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:32,120
you're timing the tide.
So you have, you know, several
477
00:21:32,120 --> 00:21:35,280
hours where that thing will be
above water and dogs will be
478
00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:38,520
running around and people be
having fun and, you know, and so
479
00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:39,760
that's a really, really good
time.
480
00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:43,240
So if you were to look at the
Rehoboth Bay, you'd see boats
481
00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:46,360
just, like all around this
island, like 100 boats, you
482
00:21:46,360 --> 00:21:48,200
know, anchored around this
island and they're all hanging
483
00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:51,040
out on the sandbar there.
And how late does this season
484
00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:53,480
go, especially in Hudson?
Valley, we go till November in
485
00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:55,920
Hudson Valley, so end of October
there we close up shop.
486
00:21:56,120 --> 00:21:58,200
So Hudson Valley's got a little
bit of shorter season than you
487
00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:00,880
know anywhere down South just
gets cold and people stop
488
00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:03,480
boating.
But we are open, I'll say
489
00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:07,680
generally from like April till
November and some of our
490
00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:10,080
southern locations we run into
December.
491
00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:13,760
We try to stay open at a few
locations for fishing people as
492
00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:15,600
long as we can.
Those are usually the people
493
00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:18,040
that are out earliest in the
season and latest in the season.
494
00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:20,840
Yeah, but that's cool.
But if you if you join and then
495
00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:22,840
you do it in the Hudson Valley,
but you know you're going to go
496
00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:26,000
away, like you could go go visit
a club somewhere else when
497
00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:28,160
you're going on vacation anyway.
That's exactly right.
498
00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:30,120
Yep.
So in those winter months, our
499
00:22:30,120 --> 00:22:32,880
members are still paying dues
because we have to pay for the
500
00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:36,520
boats all year long and so on,
buy boats that that's how it is.
501
00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:38,520
So our dues are paid 12 months
out of year.
502
00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:41,120
But in order to, you know, if
you want to do experience the
503
00:22:41,120 --> 00:22:44,440
club in the winter short, yeah.
I mean, the Carolina S are open
504
00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:47,000
year round to my knowledge.
I'm in Florida, there's like
505
00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:49,200
dozens of these clubs and a ton
of these.
506
00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:51,160
And so Yep, they're open year
round.
507
00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:53,080
And I mean, that's the place to
be in the winter.
508
00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:55,840
So definitely, you know, if
you're free to book club member,
509
00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:58,360
just keep that in mind and you
know, try to set something up in
510
00:22:58,360 --> 00:23:00,480
the winter and go enjoy one of
these warm weather climates.
511
00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:03,920
So what are all the things that
like I would need to pay for?
512
00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:06,400
Yeah.
So the entry fee, start off
513
00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:08,360
there, You pay your entry fee to
join the club, you pay your
514
00:23:08,360 --> 00:23:10,560
monthly dues.
We have a Peace of Mind plan,
515
00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:12,960
which is optional, which would
cover damage to the boat, right?
516
00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:14,280
So you have no deductible
anymore.
517
00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:17,680
About north of 80% of our
members too accept that Peace of
518
00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:19,680
Mind plan.
I literally just give some Peace
519
00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:22,320
of Mind to know that if they get
stuck somewhere on a sandbar or
520
00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:25,000
need a tow or, you know, break a
prop, they don't have to pay for
521
00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:26,280
those things.
Fuel.
522
00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:28,680
You pay for your fuel.
You don't have to fuel the boat.
523
00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:31,640
Our staff will do that for you.
You'll participate in a checkout
524
00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:33,200
process.
When you leave the dock, they'll
525
00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:35,000
take note of the fuel meter
reading.
526
00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:38,440
When you return, they'll take
another reading and they will
527
00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:40,440
deduct that you know the
difference there and they'll
528
00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:43,440
apply it to whatever fuel across
that day, right?
529
00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:45,600
So you just pay for the fuel you
burn.
530
00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:49,240
You don't have to actually fuel
it, and you could choose to tip
531
00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:51,160
the dock staff.
Other than that, you know, there
532
00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:53,400
are no fees.
Sometimes when we do a really
533
00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:57,240
nice event, we will charge, you
know, just to be neutral in the
534
00:23:57,240 --> 00:23:58,520
event, we'll charge ticket
prices.
535
00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:00,400
A lot of times we subsidized
those prices.
536
00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:03,160
All that stuff's optional, but
there are like no hidden keys.
537
00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:05,480
You may have to pay to park at
certain marinas.
538
00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:08,280
We don't charge you for gas.
We don't nickel and dime our
539
00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:09,560
members really at all.
And.
540
00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:12,040
You and you need some cute
outfits in those shoes.
541
00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:14,240
Yeah, Yeah.
That could be helpful.
542
00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:15,440
Sure thing.
Yeah.
543
00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:19,720
You may have to spend some money
on boat shoes and hats and you
544
00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:22,400
know, whatever.
So in addition to being
545
00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:24,800
terrified of getting stuck out
in the dark, which sounds like I
546
00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:28,040
can't because all I've broken
the rules, I'm too late, is what
547
00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:30,320
about like bad weather?
Like what happens with bad
548
00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:33,600
weather and like how much do you
know like it's going to happen?
549
00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:36,160
Like are you warned or do you
swing it and see what happens
550
00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:37,800
and get back?
I mean just speed boats like if
551
00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:40,280
I get back pretty fast but still
how does weather?
552
00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:42,840
When you go through training,
you know our captains will teach
553
00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:44,080
you what to look out for on the
weather.
554
00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:48,000
Are our members, do you need to
be responsible for knowing a bit
555
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:48,880
about the weather?
Right.
556
00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:51,320
But our staff also are very
aware of the weather when you
557
00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:53,200
arrive on site.
We have, we call it our weather
558
00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:55,080
board.
It's just a board we fill out
559
00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:58,360
every day and it has things like
time times, the weather for the
560
00:24:58,360 --> 00:25:01,400
day, right, what you can expect
for the day, prices on fuel,
561
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:04,120
things like that.
And so our staff is very aware
562
00:25:04,120 --> 00:25:06,520
of the weather.
Now, let's say it's a very bad
563
00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:09,640
weather day, like small craft.
If we had a small craft advisory
564
00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:13,200
and you're boating in an open
water area, like there's nowhere
565
00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:15,400
safe to go, we would close the
club on that day.
566
00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:17,880
We won't let anyone be, you
know, in any trouble.
567
00:25:18,120 --> 00:25:20,760
Now, if you were on the river
and small craft advisory was
568
00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:23,920
down near the Statue of Liberty
or something, right, You may
569
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:26,480
still be able to head up north
and, you know, be protected.
570
00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:29,120
So we would let you out,
anything beyond the small craft
571
00:25:29,120 --> 00:25:33,600
advisory would just close, like
if it's named storm or you know,
572
00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:35,600
a tropical storm, anything like
that, we would be closed.
573
00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:38,560
Now, if weather is coming in,
let's say it looked sunny and
574
00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:41,760
great and we start to notice
some clouds coming in, our staff
575
00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:44,680
would try to reach out to those
members via cell phone, text
576
00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:47,480
messages or calls and let them
know, hey, you might have some
577
00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:49,320
weather coming in.
And from there, we would
578
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:52,040
recommend you could either get
back or if you're somewhere
579
00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:54,600
else, maybe pull up to one of
those restaurants, just stick
580
00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:56,960
shelter for a little bit.
You'd be able to make that
581
00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:58,400
choice then.
But we try to alert you as soon
582
00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:00,000
as we know that it's happening.
Great.
583
00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:01,920
All right, so we both love
water.
584
00:26:02,360 --> 00:26:06,760
We both don't fish yet.
But for you, like for you
585
00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:11,840
specifically, what's your
favorite way to experience the
586
00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:13,880
water, especially when you're in
the Hudson Valley?
587
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:15,800
Like, what's your what's your
shtick?
588
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:17,880
Yeah, I'm.
Like a cruising guy.
589
00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:20,960
I really love that cruising.
The doc and Dimes are, you know,
590
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:22,920
a favorite of mine.
I try to eat one every time I'm
591
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:26,880
out and then, you know, just
anchoring and I, I got to tell
592
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:30,160
you the best time I ever had, it
wasn't in the Hudson Valley, but
593
00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:32,520
it was in DC.
The opening we operated a club
594
00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:35,320
in DCI was just out with a
couple of friends and some nice
595
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:37,520
cigars.
We were underneath the Reagan
596
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:40,240
just anchored, you know, planes
coming in overhead, the
597
00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:42,600
monuments lit up.
Just sitting on a boat enjoying
598
00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:45,200
one another's company.
And so for me, that's it.
599
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:49,000
I, I'm not like I don't do any
tubing and no fishing like we
600
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:51,160
mentioned.
I just like to enjoy the company
601
00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:54,280
of the people that I'm with and
really just decompress and, you
602
00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:59,080
know, leave my phone in, in my
backpack and, and enjoy what's
603
00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:02,280
going on around me.
So in the Hudson, I, I like just
604
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:03,920
cruising.
I really enjoy cruising up and
605
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:06,240
down the river.
West Point isn't amazing from
606
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:07,640
the water.
You know, there's some really
607
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:08,160
nice.
Lands.
608
00:27:08,360 --> 00:27:10,520
That looks so cool.
From the water it does.
609
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:14,040
From that it really does.
That's north of the Hudson.
610
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:17,240
But when you come down to the
city, I mean our first day when
611
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:19,920
we opened here at Jersey City,
which is where I'm located right
612
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:22,640
now, when we opened, I took a
boat out with a few of our staff
613
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,080
and we went up the Hudson a
little ways.
614
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:27,760
But the aircraft carrier that's
there, I can't.
615
00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:30,600
Is it the Intrepid?
There's an aircraft carrier
616
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:31,960
sitting there with the Concorde
right.
617
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:34,400
First time I had ever seen those
things, but from the water, I
618
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:37,200
mean an amazing vantage point to
just see some really cool things
619
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,560
in the city.
The city itself is amazing to
620
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:42,280
see from the water.
We saw a cruise ship coming out
621
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:45,280
the Statue of Liberty by water
is unbelievable.
622
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:48,400
And so I I just like the
different vantage point and
623
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,720
getting this and you're.
Just allowed to like you're
624
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:53,120
allowed to just buzz around
wherever you want.
625
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:55,040
Yeah, absolutely.
Yeah.
626
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:56,840
Now, maybe not wherever you
want.
627
00:27:56,840 --> 00:28:00,680
Now, Statue of Liberty's got a
lot of very clearly marked or
628
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:02,800
restricted air.
But I mean, if you're, if you're
629
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:05,400
within the places that you're
allowed to be, yeah, you can go.
630
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:09,280
I mean, take Circle Manhattan,
head to the Long Island, Sound,
631
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:11,120
City Islands.
Got some really nice restaurants
632
00:28:11,120 --> 00:28:13,360
on it.
So a lot of very cool places to
633
00:28:13,360 --> 00:28:14,600
go.
I'm even thinking of a lot of
634
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:17,320
places up here on the Hudson
where you could duck and dine.
635
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:20,800
I'm realizing that like in
Kingston at the Round Out,
636
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:24,720
there's places Athens has a
nice, you know, any place, I
637
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:27,080
guess there's there's a lot of
restaurants along along the
638
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:29,880
river that I'm just realizing I
could probably make a
639
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:32,920
reservation at and and go, do
you get permission in advance to
640
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:34,320
dock at the restaurant or at
that?
641
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:37,000
But you may, yeah.
I mean, it probably varies by
642
00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:38,800
arena.
Some arenas with restaurants in
643
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:41,000
them, I think the restaurants
will lease a few slips and they
644
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:42,800
just leave them in their first
come, first serve.
645
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:46,160
But some marinas do offer
transient docking where you may
646
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:48,800
have to set that up ahead of
time and reserve a time slot,
647
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:50,880
things like that.
So I would call ahead, you know,
648
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:52,760
if you're, if you're not sure or
not familiar with it.
649
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:56,920
But yeah, I mean, there are many
opportunities to do that and and
650
00:28:56,920 --> 00:29:00,400
it's a really fun thing to do.
Yeah, that's so fun.
651
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:01,280
That's great.
Thank you.
652
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:02,360
Thanks.


























